Heini Trümpy: Can we download the presentation after the meeting?
Bérénice Jaccaz: nadia hasn't a webcam ?
Andreas Roellinghoff: Yes for the download
Andreas Roellinghoff: No for Naia
Andreas Roellinghoff: Nadia
Roland Streule:  it's also helpful for knowledge transfer...
Emmanuel Fernandes: If you have a question don't hesitate to enter your question in the chat box, or use your status (i have a question)....
silvia de ascaniis: mind map
Andreas Koenig: yes I do
Roland Streule: es, mind maps for brainstorming processes
Andreas Koenig: cmaps and mindmaps for educational puposesPetra Kauer-Ott: NO
wolfgang.widulle: Yes I'm working since 5 years with Advance ORganizers, put up in ppt.
fred: mainly for relational database representations
Andreas Koenig: why not
Nathalie Bagnoud: struture of website
Andreas Roellinghoff (privately): No more picture to be seen
fred: and also XML
Daniel Scherly: minmap with the student during Problem based learning
Andreas Koenig: i could show an example from HRM
Nathalie Bagnoud: project management
Andreas Koenig: sure
wolfgang.widulle: I don't know how to show examples of my concept maps
silvia de ascaniis: we used a mind map to review a face-to-face course at the univiersity of Lugano (the course called eLearning
Chrysi Rapanta: i use mindmap and cmap to design my Phdtesis
Nathalie Bagnoud: usefull for learning
Martin Vögeli: yes, we can hear you.
Patrick: Use freemap
Emmanuel Fernandes: yes we hear you Andres...
Emmanuel Fernandes: Andreas ;-)
Annabell Lorenz (Vienne): there are noises
Christian Rohrer: Ja
Petra Kauer-Ott: some people use mind maps to take notes during meetings
Emmanuel Fernandes: Thanks Andreas
Andreas Koenig: was a pleasure :-)
Andreas Koenig: could provide screenshots..., too
Andreas Roellinghoff: I will try to find a way that we can continue this discussion and exchange of material after the presentation.
guest 6: Hi Andreas. Ich bin Enrique Wintsch
Andreas Roellinghoff (privately): Super. Schön das Du teilnehmen kannst
Andreas Koenig: do all applications provide all kinds of representation (of c-maps)?
Alain Dubois: Non je roupillai un peu ;-)
Andreas Koenig: ok thanx
Andreas Koenig: comment: item #4-6: good points: foster integrated and systems thinking!
fred: me
Andreas Koenig: freemind is open source = better choice ;-)
chauvin: I use Mind manager
wolfgang.widulle: I tried it but find the icons and pics quite stupid,  I take my own pictures
wolfgang.widulle: yes, i know inspiration, but i work with powerpoint, find it rather flexibel
fred: someone uses kdissert?
fred: and gerwin?
Andreas Koenig: yes I used to use kdissert; nice tool, stable...
chauvin: Knowing, but not use frequently
wolfgang.widulle: no, personalbrain i don't know
Andreas Koenig: please indicate wehter your software ist opern source or not
wolfgang.widulle: no
Emmanuel Fernandes: other softwares different from those proposed by fred or Andreas ?
Andreas Roellinghoff: The presentation will be accessible later today on the eduhub page for downloading
fred:  can you add the chat for download later?
Andreas Roellinghoff: OK, chat too
Andreas Roellinghoff: Good idea
Andreas Koenig: yes, I agree :-)
Martin Vögeli: there is a mindmap tool for moodle.
Martin Vögeli: but it works only with firefox.
Andreas Koenig: and it has limited functionalities only
Patrick: Good information
Heini Trümpy: Is it an aditional "Plug in?"
Jacques M.: there also online (collaborative) mind-mapping tools, e.g. MindMeister, Mindomo, or bubbl.us
fred: openoffice has an integrated tool which is not so bad
Roland Streule: do this applications provide functionalities for comparing two CMs?
Andreas Koenig: @fred: to which oo-tool do you refer?
fred: organigram (french)
Andreas Koenig: @fre: thanx
Roland Streule: @nadia: thanks
Andreas Koenig: could you tell us which of the recommended tools is open source
silvia de ascaniis: do you think that Compendium is useful to visualize argumentation processes?are there any  tools to do it?
Andreas Koenig: thanx, Nadiaè
Alexander Hunziker: For the task of wirthing as Bachelor Thesis which too would you recomend the students?
silvia de ascaniis: thanks :-)
fred: comment: for openoffice, use Draw > Connector
Martin Vögeli: @heini: yes, the mindmap activity from moodle is an additional one.
Heini Trümpy: thanks
Luca Mazzola: @heiki - (technically is a filter) and here there's a link to moodle docs on FreeMind filter http://docs.moodle.org/en/FreeMind_filter
Chrysi Rapanta: is it possible to attach a knowledge map like this to a ppt presentation without losing any visual elements?
Chrysi Rapanta: and how?
Martin Vögeli: @luca: that's not what i meant.
Andreas Roellinghoff: Whoooooww
Heini Trümpy: Thanks, i take a look afterwards
Martin Vögeli: @luca: a teacher developed an activity for moodle.
Martin Vögeli: it is interactive.
Christoph Meier: thanks great presentation!
Roland Streule: Thank you very much, Nadia. Wonderful presentation!
Heini Trümpy: Thank you!
Martin Vögeli: thx :)
Enrique Wintsch: Many thanks, Nadia!
Andreas Koenig: Thank you very much, Nadia! Learned a lot!
stefano: thx a lot!
wolfgang.widulle: Thanks for your presentation, I work with maps for a long time und it gave me many impulses
Annabell Lorenz (Vienne): Thx Nadia!
Riccardo Mazza (USI): Thanks a lot nadia
Luca Mazzola: thanks
Heini Trümpy: Yes, i would like to have detalled informations about the possibilities in teacing
silvia de ascaniis: yeees!!
Luca Mazzola: good idea
Emmanuel Fernandes: great ;-)
Andreas Koenig: we should open the floor to make examples of the members available!
Alexander Hunziker: Yes!
Annabell Lorenz (Vienne): thank you, bye!
Patrick: Could also create a forum
Enrique Wintsch: Thank you Andreas :-)
wolfgang.widulle: I'd be interested in a WIKI or something similar too!
Luca Mazzola: bye
Patrick: Thank zou Nadia
Christoph Meier: Thanks to nadia and to andreas!
Daniel Scherly: thank you !
Alexander Hunziker: Thanks Nadia, great!
pauline: merci :-)
Heini Trümpy: Thanks fpr organising it
Andreas Koenig: and thanx also to the switch people for organizing! great!
Enrique Wintsch: Thank you for this nice experience!
Roland Streule: thank you! bye!
Petra Kauer-Ott (presenters): Thanks Nadja
chauvin: Many thanks
Jetmire Hasani: bye
Emmanuel Fernandes: bye
Andreas Koenig: bye bye!
Alain Dubois: Merci bye!
Nathalie Bagnoud: thanks
silvia de ascaniis: thank you, bye!
Martin Vögeli: thanks and see you soon! :)
Rainer Schaufelberger: En Guetä, Danke.
wolfgang.widulle: Thanks Andreas also for this possibility fo joining this session.
Enrique Wintsch: Wow, right now I found how to operate the "Status" :-)
Emmanuel Fernandes: great Enrique...
Enrique Wintsch: OUI - très bien fait, Nadia!
Enrique Wintsch: En guete!